That is absolutely the best possible solution. Would you like to head up the militia in your state? Let me know where to send them, and I will have a bundle of portraits mailed off.

Here's a better plan: let's have dictatorship-first immigration reform (like enforcement-first, only more practical). If we already have a Catholic dictatorship, the Democrats would have no sway over the Hispanic masses even if said Democrats were allowed to proselytize without going to prison. Thus with dictatorship added, Hispanics strengthen the state rather than being corrupted by the state. Dictatorship-first immigration really is the only way to go.

Kreuik,

Now we are getting somewhere. I have absolutely lost hope in the GOP being the party of "conservatism." Those days are over. The GOP is the party of, well, the GOP.

Now, if you look at the situation from an immigrant viewpoint you will see two parties: one says, "go home, and take your stinkin' customs with you. But we're not racist. Really" and the other says, "see, those guys are total shits. Come over on our side and we will look out for you. We are the party of the little guy, etc."

And the "party of the little guy" goes out of its way to bring these immigrants into the party. They even groom the youths (a certain part of their party really likes to groom the youths, but let's not get into that) for leadership positions...but...there's a catch, you see. "We are the party of representation, so you know, some of those ideas your parents and grandparents had about family and sexual morality, those won't fly around Congressman Frank." And, bam! you have just eroded 500 years of Catholic teaching in a region.

So, the problem is not how to keep Mexicans in the GOP, but how to keep them faithful to the teachings of the church. Losing them to Protestantism generally means that their kids will become lost sheep and end up on dope, even if their parents vote for Bush. In fact, let them stay Democrat if they can be the force to bring the Democrat party back to its conservative (and Catholic - at least in the big cities) roots.

The solution is to drop the rabid anti-immigrant position, and work feverishly on catechesis (and expect no help from the bishops who have put Spanish language ministry in the hands of Liberation Theologians) and Catholic Bible Study.

I did not read the entirety of your debate with Wardlow, so I can't say for sure, but I would be surprised to see someone such as himself, who appeals to statistics, using absolute terms like "all."

I would really like to belive you that Mexicans are antithetical to "statism." Unfortunately, STATISTICS show that Latinos are highly averse to the Republican party, and quite fond of nanny state policies.

Furthermore, these statistics to which I refer were not gathered by the likes of the Heritage Foundation but by sources like Congressional Quarterly and major universities (not exactly breeding grounds for Know-Nothings). So, your skepticism of statistics rings a bit false, even paranoid.

If Mexicans are in fact leaning to the left (they are), how do you propose overcoming that predilection. When they become Americans, they will vote lefty, lefties' power will become more entrenched, the nanny state strengthened.

Tell me I'm wrong, I'd love to be proven wrong given the demographic trends we agree upon.